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#1 10/2/13 20:46

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HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Ok so this is Uroboros's HQNinjas mod originally discussed here: http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum/v … hp?id=2534
I made a few modifications ... end result shown in the screenshots below
depot link : http://mods.oni2.net/node/248

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#2 10/2/13 21:07

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Groovy


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#3 11/2/13 20:04

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Nice.
But it blams my game when I try to play with them.

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#4 11/2/13 21:26

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

try it as only mod .. if it doesn't blam .. then it' something else .. it's only a texture mod no reason for it to blam

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#5 12/2/13 5:08

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

WoW NICE!

good job Samer


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#6 12/2/13 6:38

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

I only made the head texture and slightly modified the rest of the textures .. it's uroboros who did a good job first smile


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#7 12/2/13 22:03

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Great job!  At first the eyes seemed disturbing, but then I realized that was the original concept:

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#8 13/2/13 2:09

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

I feel as though the visor part should be a darker color, just to vary the color a bit.

Also, that chestplate on the Red ninja is very white.


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#9 13/2/13 6:51

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

@Edt thanks ^_^ yes I liked that original concept, felt it gave him more personality and anime like features.

TheCreature wrote:

I feel as though the visor part should be a darker color, just to vary the color a bit.

I agree I should have had a bit more color variation in the head texture .. I'll see what I can do smile

Also, that chestplate on the Red ninja is very white.

uroboros was going for this Ninja_Render.jpg original character concept by oni, where the armor is white, I did however decrease the brightness of it quite a bit from uroboros's original in my modification, but I didn't want to stary too far from uroboros's vision, but since there are now 2 versions available I might give decreasing brightness further a go.

Thanks for your feedback Nathan smile


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#10 13/2/13 7:31

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Well...

The textures are quite interesting , but to shiny for ninjas in my opinion - a lot darker them will be more appreciate here.
The next point is shadowing . While the cloth and it's wrinkles look proper enough , the armor one need a lot more work - it's simply to flat.
And the last Thing is character shadow. I understand that oni engine isn't cable of support features like dynamic lighting or shadows, but that doesn't mean either, that we can't draw or bake them.

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#11 13/2/13 7:57

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

In my modification I added a lot of shadows to the armor most notabley the bicep shield texture from uroboros's original .. Which parts of the armor did you feel need more shadows ? i've looked at them individually and I think the rest is well done.
As for the darker armor the concept was recreating the original ninja -character renderer ... It could use some brightness decrease a bit on some parts. The trick is there are 3 variants of the ninja one which has lighter boots (shown on the red one here .. And darker boots shown on the blue one, we had to find the right chest piece shade that would go with both the dark boots and the light boots)
also which parts don't have shadows ? A lot of the previous ''shadows'' were black blurs ... Shadows are better implemented with burn tool giving a cleaner look which uroboros and I have done here ...


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#12 13/2/13 8:58

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

geez..

I don't really have time now, to show you step by step, how thous textures can be improved.
Just google old ps1 games or other, that don't support dynamic L&S , and examine them - maybe then you will see the difference.

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#13 13/2/13 9:19

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Sad to see that the polycount was way higher in those renders. I wonder if there're still materials left of all this old stuff..

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#14 13/2/13 10:59

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

''Geez'', pardon my ignorance all mighty ltemplar ... If you can't carry through your comment and clarify what you're basing it on then why comment at all.

@ TOCS i'm not sure they were higher in polycount but they do look smoother, cleaner to me.

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#15 13/2/13 12:37

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

...........

TOCS - The poly count is exactly the same - for me at last. The characters seams to be skinned and rigged instead only rigged (like in the original oni). I also see L&D here, support by the game engine or... the screen is from the 3d program - hard to tell.

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#16 13/2/13 19:51

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

I'm pretty sure that Ninja render has a higher polycount -- just look at the hands; there're actually fingers.

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#17 13/2/13 19:57

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

I don't see any seams. It looks like one model rather than a bunch of separate parts.


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#18 13/2/13 22:12

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Interesting I didn't notice the fingers at first ... yikes don't know what to make of that.

Btw Knox did you try as only pack ? Still blaming for you ?


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#19 13/2/13 22:24

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Re: HQNinjas Version 2 by Uroboros, Modified by Samer

Tried it as only pack. Worked fine. Don't know what happened. Gonna find out.


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