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#1 11/19/08 11:11

s10k
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bind to FN key?

Hello I bought a notebook a some weeks and its keyboard have in the place of crtl key a FN key,like this one:
100_1259.jpg.jpg

There is any way to bind this key in oni config file? I tried with "bind fn to action" but it didn't worked..

I also looked at this old page and programs but seems they don't mention this key:
http://oni.bungie.org/keyconfig.html

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#2 11/19/08 12:11

Gumby
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Re: bind to FN key?

as far as I know, no.


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#3 11/19/08 12:11

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Re: bind to FN key?

I'd be surprised if FN could be bound, it would be contrary to how it's supposed to work as a special key that only affects the F keys.


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#4 11/19/08 16:11

s10k
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Re: bind to FN key?

Iritscen wrote:

I'd be surprised if FN could be bound, it would be contrary to how it's supposed to work as a special key that only affects the F keys.

Well I know. But it will be more practical to use.

I don't like to play with the ctrl in my notebook.. I would prefer the fn key. hmm

I wonder if it is not possible to bind it, we can add it in oni.exe or something.

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#5 11/19/08 17:11

Gumby
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Re: bind to FN key?

http://www.msghelp.net/attachment.php?pid=733194

Use that, and give me a screenshot (or carefullly type out) what it says when you press FN.

If you can do that, I'll see if I can either modify the EXE or use the Daodan to do it for me.


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#6 11/19/08 17:11

s10k
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Re: bind to FN key?

Gumby wrote:

http://www.msghelp.net/attachment.php?pid=733194

Use that, and give me a screenshot (or carefullly type out) what it says when you press FN.

If you can do that, I'll see if I can either modify the EXE or use the Daodan to do it for me.

Where's what I got:

f_Semttulom_a2f96bb.jpg

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#7 11/19/08 18:11

Gumby
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Re: bind to FN key?

That's the same keycode as control smile


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#8 11/19/08 18:11

s10k
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Re: bind to FN key?

Gumby wrote:

That's the same keycode as control smile

Damm you are right. Seems that FN key don't appear in that program. sad

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#9 11/19/08 19:11

Gumby
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Re: bind to FN key?

Most Fn keys are hardware based and don't show up to the OS. I had you check on the offchance that it does. But it doesn't. Sorry.


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#10 11/20/08 09:11

s10k
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Re: bind to FN key?

Gumby wrote:

Most Fn keys are hardware based and don't show up to the OS. I had you check on the offchance that it does. But it doesn't. Sorry.

Seems you are right:
https://www.deckkeyboards.com/forum/vie … p?f=2&t=86

I will need to use another key. hmm

unfortunately, the FN key cannot be remapped to another key. i have a gateway laptop and yes, they do also have the FN key on the very bottom left.

after doing some research, the way that keyboards work in windows is that each key coresponds to a certain scancode which tells the OS what to do.
however, the FN key doesnt return a scancode to the OS but rather modifies the scancode of the key that it is press with.

i believe that laptop keyboards have different circuitry than desktop keyboards which enables them to do things like set the brightness/contrast in hardware (using the Fn key), and this bypasses the normal BIOS systems - in effect, the system never actually sees the Fn key, so you can’t remap it in XP.

a bummer, yes, but maybe in the future companies will take these complaints into account and place that damn Fn key elsewhere.

http://www.ashbaughonline.com/2006/08/1 … -ctrl-key/

And:

In many designs, pressing F-Lock or Fn key itself does not generate a scancode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key

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