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#1 03/24/09 06:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

After not playing oni in years, and losing the disc, i decided to buy it again. I remember it being a great game big_smile

Installed fine.
As i load the game, the first 2 movies play fine.
Once im on the menu, the mous lags across the screen in jerky movements of about 1fps. I can move the mouse, but it wont respond for another second.
The intro movies when i start the game also lag like this along with ingame play.
I tryed installing openGL but it won't let me register.
Im running on 1.5GB Ram
ATI Radeon x800 Graphics Card
Lanparty NF Motherboard
As far as i can see, it shouldn't be a hardware problem...do i need to install a patch perhaps...
All Drivers are up to date.
Anybody recognise these problems?
Thanks in advance if you can help or offer some advice!
/Moomin

Last edited by Moomin (03/24/09 06:03)

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#2 03/24/09 09:03

Mengjun
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Registered: 11/14/08

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Hm, try the Daodan DLL: http://wiki.oni2.net/Daodan_DLL

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#3 03/24/09 10:03

Gumby
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
Registered: 08/30/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Are you running Vista?


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#4 03/24/09 13:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Mengjun wrote:

Hm, try the Daodan DLL: http://wiki.oni2.net/Daodan_DLL

This just runs the game in window mode, problem persists.

I am running XP Home edition, using the original oni game (not anniversary)

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#5 03/25/09 02:03

RossyMiles
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

http://rossy.oni2.net/files/binkw32.dll

Try this version of the DLL, it has a patch to fix performance related issues. I'm not sure if it'll work but its worth a try.

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#6 03/25/09 05:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

RossyMiles wrote:

http://rossy.oni2.net/files/binkw32.dll

Try this version of the DLL, it has a patch to fix performance related issues. I'm not sure if it'll work but its worth a try.

Thanks for your help, but it hasn't made a difference.

Would a visual recording of my problems help at all?

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#7 03/25/09 07:03

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 10/22/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Being a Mac user, I can't really help troubleshoot Windows issues, but I just have two (probably ignorant) questions.

1. "I tryed installing openGL but it won't let me register"  Huh?  We may impugn Oni's usage of OpenGL all the time, but it does make *some* use of the protocol.  Don't you need OpenGL to run Oni??

2. "All Drivers are up to date."  Isn't there also an issue where sometimes the newest drivers are not the best?  Should Moomin be looking into older drivers?


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#8 03/25/09 07:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Here is a Video of my problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdEvc1bwQoU

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#9 03/25/09 10:03

Gumby
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Registered: 08/30/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

What is your processor?


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#10 03/25/09 11:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

AMD Athlon 64 3000+

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#11 03/25/09 13:03

Gumby
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Can you please take a screenshot of your running processes (if thats not too invasive)? Sorted by CPU or RAM (or both tongue) usage while Oni is running.

Also PLEASE double check those graphics drivers. They are the number one problem with lagging Oni.


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#12 03/25/09 14:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Processes ingame:

http://rapidshare.com/files/213476558/processes.JPG

I will double check graphics drivers now. smile

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#13 03/25/09 14:03

Gumby
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Ehh?! 0 CPU usage? This is while ingame, correct?

imageshack.us is better for image uploading, btw.


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#14 03/25/09 14:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Gumby wrote:

Ehh?! 0 CPU usage? This is while ingame, correct?

imageshack.us is better for image uploading, btw.

Sorry, i like to get rapidpoints ^^

And sorry, that was just on the menu, i will make a print screen of ingame.

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#15 03/25/09 14:03

TOCS
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From: Denmark
Registered: 04/04/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Try a defragmenting, virus-scan, and a windows update, that's all i can say, normaly that helps me in such situations.

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#16 03/25/09 14:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Processes: In-Game

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q291/stench_no1/processes-In-Game.jpg

Some nasty CPU Usage.

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#17 03/25/09 14:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Rexxar wrote:

Try a defragmenting, virus-scan, and a windows update, that's all i can say, normaly that helps me in such situations.

I defrag once a week, virus scan every 48 hours and windows just got updated today.
Except service pack 3, i have not yet installed that and don't intend to.

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#18 03/25/09 14:03

Gumby
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
Registered: 08/30/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Oh my. Hmm. Rename your GamedataFolder\IGMD to something else, and see if you still get monster CPU usage.


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#19 03/25/09 14:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Gumby wrote:

Oh my. Hmm. Rename your GamedataFolder\IGMD to something else, and see if you still get monster CPU usage.

Still same CPU and Memory usage. Still the same lag, just no intro movie and missing files.

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#20 03/25/09 14:03

Gumby
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Have you tried turning the quality slider all the way down on the options menu?


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#21 03/25/09 15:03

Moomin
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Gumby wrote:

Have you tried turning the quality slider all the way down on the options menu?

Yes, this was default when i installed. sad

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#22 03/25/09 15:03

Iritscen
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Registered: 10/22/07

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

So, was my question about OpenGL just too dumb to even dignify with a response?  If it is, that's okay, I was just throwing that out there.

Well, I can't identify many of those processes (since I don't use Windows much), but when I watched the movie my main thought was that if it wasn't an OpenGL problem, then some app seemed to be interfering with Oni's attempts to draw to the screen.  I mean, why does the window keep flickering?  In my experience on any platform, that means outside interference.  Can Windows be booted with startup items disabled?  So third-party stuff isn't loaded?


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#23 03/25/09 15:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

Iritscen wrote:

So, was my question about OpenGL just too dumb to even dignify with a response?  If it is, that's okay, I was just throwing that out there.

Well, I can't identify many of those processes (since I don't use Windows much), but when I watched the movie my main thought was that if it wasn't an OpenGL problem, then some app seemed to be interfering with Oni's attempts to draw to the screen.  I mean, why does the window keep flickering?  In my experience on any platform, that means outside interference.  Can Windows be booted with startup items disabled?  So third-party stuff isn't loaded?

I don't really have a good understanding of what openGL is, i have other games that ask whether they should be ran with direct x or openGL

I can boot my pc so that only neccesary processes are enabled, il try.

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#24 03/26/09 05:03

RossyMiles
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Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

The problem might be with the window blinds like program you're running (to use the custom theme). Themes with transparent borders aren't hardware accelerated in Windows XP so that could cause issues with games that don't use DirectX (like Oni).

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#25 03/26/09 06:03

Moomin
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Registered: 03/24/09

Re: 1 FPS at the most, non responsive gameplay!

RossyMiles wrote:

The problem might be with the window blinds like program you're running (to use the custom theme). Themes with transparent borders aren't hardware accelerated in Windows XP so that could cause issues with games that don't use DirectX (like Oni).

Has not made a difference sad

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