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#1 28/10/11 11:50

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Boom headshot?

I wonder if someone has done (or planning to do) a headshot mod, I dunno why but by reaction I always aim for the head plus I have a habit of firing a pistol shot whenever I'm stepping disarm someone wielding a campbell when Konoko aims at the opponents head briefly. It doesnt have to be much since almost all enemies has got head armour, say 30% more damage perhaps? To encourage players to aim for the head smile


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#2 28/10/11 12:54

TheCreature
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From: Michigan, USA
Registered: 15/12/09

Re: Boom headshot?

I believe that this was experimented with.  There's probably a link around here somewhere...  http://mods.oni2.net/node/71  There we go.  It reads:

"Dealt damage depends on material.

note to players:
THIS MOD IS A "PROOF OF CONCEPT" AND NOT MEANT TO BE USED BY REGULAR PLAYERS.

note to modders:
THIS MOD IS STILL IN PLUG-IN FROM, IT DOESN'T FIT THE CURRENT AE SYSTEM.
(So, turn it into package form if you want to test it.)"

Also, here's a tidbit of discussion on the mod:  http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD_talk:BINA/ONIE … _head_hits


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#3 28/10/11 15:05

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Erm, what do you do with a plug-in? :S


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#4 28/10/11 15:40

TheCreature
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From: Michigan, USA
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Re: Boom headshot?

It's actually not that hard.  Generally what it involves is replacing a few files in the GameDataFolder.  I like plug-ins because I can use them with Vanilla Oni.  I wouldn't recommend using them with the AE though.


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#5 28/10/11 16:33

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

How come? Does it come into conflict with the AE packages?


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#6 28/10/11 18:38

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

It shouldn't cause a crash or anything, but you're interfering with the way the AE installs mods and handles conflicts in a predictable manner.  Simply making it into a package should avoid that.  But if you're just testing the plug-in, you can simply drop the files in the normal GDF instead of the Edition GDF.


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#7 29/10/11 6:37

Samer
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Re: Boom headshot?

whenever u rerun the installer the plugin would disappear, that's why a package is easier


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#8 29/10/11 18:32

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Ok, so if I want to play vanilla oni with that mod, what do I do with all those files? Where do I place them?

Could one of you mighty modders explain this to a mere mortal like me? pls? tongue


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#9 29/10/11 19:03

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Hmm, I see that this isn't a plug-in at all, paradox used the wrong term.  With this mod, you're supposed to compile the folder of .onis into a .dat/.raw with the name of your choosing.  "onisplit.exe -import [in folder] [out file]", as the help explains.


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#10 30/10/11 3:42

paradox-01
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From: Germany
Registered: 14/1/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Judging by the old description I perhaps zipped the wrong folder. *shrugs*
Updated: http://mods.oni2.net/node/71

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#11 30/10/11 7:46

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Ah, cool, thanks 'dox, that simplifies things.  One small note, it's better if you use your full user name in the Creator field in the package info.  If the AE Installer supports downloading directly from the Depot in the future, we want the various fields to be filled out consistently so we can sort by them.


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#12 30/10/11 16:23

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Cheers big_smile

How much additional damage is done when a head shot is scored?

Does it affect all weapons?

Last edited by Yoriko (30/10/11 16:24)


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#13 30/10/11 18:24

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Paradox documented all that at the link he gave before: http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD_talk:BINA/ONIE … _head_hits smile


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#14 30/10/11 19:54

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

What does it mean with: Dealt damage depends on material?


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#15 31/10/11 3:22

paradox-01
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From: Germany
Registered: 14/1/07

Re: Boom headshot?

All 19 body parts of a character have a material from which an impact effect is chosen.
If a bullet hits cloth or flesh it triggers red little circles, armor give sparks.
With the mod the material influence also the damage from some weapons, but only up to w15_smg.
E.g. the TCTF pistol deals +4 damage to the head, +3 to a helmed head and +2 to other unprotected body parts. Other armored body parts remain unaffected.
In general the additional damage was kept low to preserve Oni's gameplay balance of melee and weapons. If you want higher values you would need to edit the BINA3RAPw files.

Last edited by paradox-01 (31/10/11 3:32)

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#16 31/10/11 4:23

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

What do you mean with +4 damage? 4 times the damage or 4 additional hp?

IMO it's really bloody hard to hit an enemy in the head when he's dashing towards you, would be even harder if we find a way to make the AI dodge the laser sight.

Last edited by Yoriko (31/10/11 4:24)


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#17 31/10/11 6:06

paradox-01
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From: Germany
Registered: 14/1/07

Re: Boom headshot?

TCTF pistol deals 8-10 damage.
                    <Damage>
                        <Random Min="8" Max="10" />
                    </Damage>
If the bullet hits an unprotected head 4 additional damage points are dealt. So the shot deals 12-14 in total.


IMO it's really bloody hard to hit an enemy in the head when he's dashing towards you, would be even harder if we find a way to make the AI dodge the laser sight.

Maybe give him 50 bucks. "Wait right there. It shan't be long."

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#18 31/10/11 8:43

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Dont you think it would be better if it were percentage? With this system the mercury bow can only deal another additional 4 hp of damage instead of utilizing it's precision and bullet damage fully to score headshots. Same thing for the plasma rifle.


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#19 31/10/11 9:42

paradox-01
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From: Germany
Registered: 14/1/07

Re: Boom headshot?

I don't see how to make particles eat percentage values for damage nor how to refer to the base damage. Therefor the weapons have their own damage adding particle.
Mercury bow for exampel:

BINA3RAPw8hithead_e01.oni
BINA3RAPw8hithelmet_e01.oni
BINA3RAPw8hitunprotected_e01.oni

	material	damage	stun	knockback
w8_mbo
			60-80	40-60	30-40	
	head		+15	+4	+3 
	unprotected	+10	+2	+2
	helmet		+5	+3	+2-3

Last edited by paradox-01 (31/10/11 9:45)

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#20 31/10/11 14:35

Iritscen
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From: NC, USA
Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Personally, I think the material-dependent system is very well-designed.  It's great that Oni has such a sophisticated particle system that this is possible.


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#21 31/10/11 15:51

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Oh so the additional damage values are different for each weapon? yikes

Could you list the additional damage value for all weapons? Or is that listed somewhere already? hmm

EDIT: PS, does anyone know how to turn of the auto aim? roll

Last edited by Yoriko (31/10/11 15:53)


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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#22 31/10/11 16:38

s10k
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From: Portugal
Registered: 14/1/07
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Re: Boom headshot?

chr_weapon_auto_aim=0

in console

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#23 31/10/11 16:41

paradox-01
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From: Germany
Registered: 14/1/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Yup, all different. See second post. Follow link and go to "second beta", click "[show]".

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#24 31/10/11 18:31

Iritscen
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Registered: 22/10/07

Re: Boom headshot?

Yoriko, we linked you to the page with that table twice -_-


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#25 31/10/11 18:57

Yoriko
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From: Sweden, Gothenburg
Registered: 15/2/11

Re: Boom headshot?

Thanks Paradox, that tab was tiny. smile

EDIT: When it comes to the beige strikers with only partial covering helmets, can you headshot them and deal damage as protected head aswell as unprotected head depending on where you aim?

Last edited by Yoriko (1/11/11 10:56)


-I noticed that the hackers of oni community made a lot of modifications before they locked me up, do you have any idea what they want with an old game? -Modifications? What kind of modifications?
-Hard to tell, without getting a look at things but it looks like they're repurposing it. -Why?
-Beats me, all the game has is brutal melee combat and furious gunplay. -I dont like the sound of that.....

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