Extracting TRAMs

Mukade · 07/03/10 19:07

Yeah, I know, this problem has been discussed before, but it still hasn't done me any good, I get the same problem, it just tells me: Animation <insert animation here> is not found.
in the run window, then it comes up with the Finished! popup, and I get the ONCC and the textures out, but no anim...

So here's to trying again, any suggestions?

Iritscen · 07/03/10 20:07

Would you mind trying the exact directions here:
http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum/v … 862#p15862

If that works, then we'll set about trying to figure out why the animation you want isn't working.

EdT · 07/03/10 21:07

Mukade: For the animation name are you including the .oni suffix? Like TRAMELICOMkick_lt.oni???

If so, then just enter TRAMELICOMkick_lt

Iritscen · 07/03/10 21:07

Hmm, are we supposed to leave that off? I thought my directions worked for me back then....

EdT · 07/03/10 22:07

Your code is right: -anim:NINCOMidle1

Mukade · 07/04/10 00:07

yeah, I was doing that, but I'm pretty sure I've tried leaving that out before, but I'll give it a shot

EDIT: Nope, no go, it doesnt find it if I omit the .oni suffix or include it, doesnt matter
EDIT II: Ironically, your instructions are trying to extract the same animation as me, super ninja in idle pose.... it's late now, I'll try those directions tomorrow (or later today as the case may be ) Although I don't harbor high hopes, like I said, I've always had this problem and it never worked for me

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Gumby · 07/04/10 01:07

Are the animations in the same folder as the ONCC?

EdT · 07/04/10 10:07

Please post a screenshot of the message, maybe there is a clue...

Mukade · 07/04/10 13:07

Gumby wrote:

Are the animations in the same folder as the ONCC?

I stuck the level0_Animations folder into the levelo_characters folder, but even if I take the individual animations and put them in the folder with the ONCCs it doesn't work

I can post it, but I don't think there's any hints... Just says animation not found

here it is...

EdT · 07/04/10 13:07

I notice in your path directory you have a single quote and space, maybe that has something to do with the problem...

Also, you haven't updated to the latest AE? All the level0 files are in a single level0_Final folder. No more Characters or Animation folders.

Did you try Iritscen's method, using the command line, not the GUI?

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Mukade · 07/04/10 16:07

- I don't think that's the problem, as you can see thats my "other" account, my other directory has no spaces, and as for the one quotation, I think that isn't part of the path itself, just, since it's a command box, it's to seperate the path from the command, i think

- Maybe I didn't update mine right, cause my folders are still seperate.... Not sure if it'll make a difference, but I'll look into it, at this point I'll try anything
EDIT I: Gone over the instructions carefully and running the installer as I type this... this time it's replacing the GameDataFolder, I guess I just patched it wrong last time, I guess I only got half of AE installed last time

- Not yet, I was gone most of the day

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Mukade · 07/04/10 17:07

Sorry for the double post, but I think it's worth it... I got it to work

Installing AE correctly did it, I suppose.. although I'm running into texture problems...

As you can see, some textures are showing as transparent, and other parts are semi transparent... ingame it's fine, but in XSI it doesn't show up...

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EdT · 07/04/10 22:07

That's a result of the alpha channel, in the wrist, biceps, thigh textures. If you delete the alpha channel from the texture, then the model will appear solid.

Oni renders it correctly, since the alpha channel is used for reflectivity. XSI, only sees the texture as transparent.

Now let's see some cool and new animations!

Mukade · 07/05/10 13:07

Alrighty, thanks for the tips, the help and the encouragement

Mukade · 07/06/10 11:07

Okayyy, I finished an animation, exported using crosswalk converter to COLLADA 1.4.1 which is .dae

I go into Onisplit, I put in file and path, and it gives me error

.dae files cannot be converted to TRAM

What's up with that?? is the version of the dae wrong? (1.4.1) It converts fine to a TRBS but not a TRAM

Here's the file if someone wants to give it a try, or if you just want to see the animation.. it opens fine in XSI:

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EdT · 07/06/10 11:07

Mukade: Did you follow these instructions: http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum/v … 230#p23230

Mukade · 07/06/10 17:07

Hmm, that gives details on modifying the original... what if I used, in my example, run_bk_start and added on a combat move, would i use the tram from run_bk_start and modify that? I'm gonna try that now, but I'm not sure it'll work

EDIT: Running installer now, I had to add on all those "extents" and the attack tags and modify those as well, which makes me even less confident it will work. Added the animation to the TRAC and putting that in installer as well. Also, how do you tell the game which controls are used to execute that particular animation? Is it the name?

EDIT II: WOOHOO! It worked! Thanks a bunch for the help EdT It's a bit speedy, I forgot to change the framerate when playing it back, but I can just go back in and use the dopesheet the spread out the frames more
Hopefully I'll make many more after this

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Mukade · 07/06/10 19:07

Sorry if I go a bit off topic, but it still has to do with the same animation... now I made this move to be an alternative to back_forward_kick (aka Willow Kick combo) but Mai is the only one who uses this. Now, I'm putting this on ninja's TRAC and maybe other custom characters, but how would I change the ninja's melee ID to actually USE this new combo, since he doesn't use those keys at all?

Iritscen · 07/06/10 20:07

Unhelpful post that merely states that I'm moving this to Modifications.

Mukade · 07/06/10 20:07

np, I was debating earlier where to post this... it kinda melds into both sections

EdT · 07/06/10 20:07

You will need to modify the BINACJBOMelee Profile in XML.
Look for <MeleeId>28</MeleeId>
<Name>NINJA_Super</Name>

Then in the <Attacks> section add this technique:

<Technique>
<Name>WillowKick</Name>
<Flags />
<Weight>50</Weight>
<Offset_0240>10</Offset_0240>
<RepeatDelay>0</RepeatDelay>
<Moves>
<Position Type="CloseForward" MinRunInDist="0" MaxRunInDist="8" ToleranceRange="16" />
<Maneuver Type="Retreat" Duration="0.009" MaxRange="0" ThresholdRange="40" />
<Attack Type="KF" />
</Moves>
</Technique>

You can change the attack name from "Willow Kick" to whatever you want.

Here an old thread about modifying the melee profile:
http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum/v … php?id=588

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Mukade · 07/06/10 21:07

I see... well that's a whole new area, is there a wiki article that deals with the various variables in the melee ID? It looks like something worth looking into. Lol, we could have a modder contest to see who has the smartest AI, and pit them against each other

EdT · 07/06/10 21:07

That would be no contest, my Motoko melee is the strongest. :-P j/k

Wiki articles:
http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD:BINA/OBJC/MELE
http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD:BINA/OBJC/MELE … 0#Bit_0x01
http://wiki.oni2.net/OBD:BINA/OBJC/MELE/MoveList

Note: There is a limit on how many attack techniques that you can use. I don't know the exact amount, but, as I was making Motoko's melee, when I added one more, it caused Oni to crash. I haven't released Motoko's melee yet, its still work in progress.

Mukade · 07/07/10 01:07

Still, that would be cool, pitting prize fighters against each other, to see who can create the deadliest AI, and it would also help to make the game more challenging in the process

Although, from what I've seen, it would take alot of work, and know-how. There's alot of variables involved

Mukade · 07/07/10 23:07

Am having extreme difficulty creating a three punch combo... the first punch works great, however the send and third just tangle up my character in the air for a sec like someone tried to tie a knot with him, if you have any idea what I'm talking about, then help would be appreciated. Yes in the XML i do have a DirectAnimation link to the next move... so I dunno what's wrong...

I can upload a movie of it tomorrow, if you don't have any ideas, along with the XMLs and the DAEs

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