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#1 10/23/09 13:10

Samer
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Poetry :$

mm ok I write poetry in my spare time sometimes ... just to express how I'm feeling I don't follow rules or anything ... and I always rhyme for some reason ... ppl tell me that is a weakness but it just comes out that way ...

so if I share some of what I write here is it ok ?
would anyone actually read them :$ ? it's very "not Oni related"

keep in my mind English is not my native tongue ... Arabic is
mm i think I'll post one anyway : here it goes  ( i hope i'm not making a fool out of myself :S)



Phoenix

When there are no tears left to cry
When u stop caring if u live or die
When the night takes over
and the light scorches ur eyes
When u drown in the lies
& u feel numb even though u're sober

When ur heart bleeds with every scar
and salvation seems so far
When all ur hopes fall and crash
ur fire and passion turn to ash
everyday is a fight
u lose ur will and might
ur soul gets black
thinking abt all the things u lack

when the reality is hard to face
when u get lost in this everlasting maze
when every path ends up blocked
and ur joy is kept under lock
when pain becomes an everyday emotion
the tears u weep become an ocean
when u can't find a reason to smile
or anything that makes it worth a while

when ur reflection becomes unrecognizable
and heart ache seems inevitable
when u feel alone even with ppl around
and what u seek can't be found
despite all u do, u come up short
u're imprisoned in this self-made fort
when u already know how it will end
and the wounds are just too many to mend

when u carry the weight of the world
& ur chest is struck by a cold hard sword
when u become hollow inside
and the agony just won't subside

when u feel all this ...
and want to surrender ...
just remember ....
to have faith ...
to dream ...
to hope ...
to fight ...
to do what's right ...

like a phoenix, from the ashes u'll rise
& your flames will melt the ice...
break the cycle change the path
it's never too late, it will be worth the wait
u can change ur life if u look inside ...

who knows what miracles u can achieve
if u just ... believe ...


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#2 10/23/09 14:10

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Re: Poetry :$

Very nice. I'd post some of my poetry...but I'd better not. big_smile


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#3 10/23/09 14:10

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Re: Poetry :$

I like the message.  smile


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#4 10/23/09 14:10

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I skimmed one or two lines, i've never liked poetry for all my literacy and the fact that I do have the ability to read between lines, but it looks very well written. It would take patience to combine that and the length of it

I also admire your guts of actually sharing written work with other ppl, i never do that tongue

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#5 10/23/09 14:10

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I've never really been able to appreciate poetry either, for some reason.  Just sounds too...  Forced/alluding...  Or something, I dunno how to explain it.  I prefer more upfront messages.


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#6 10/23/09 16:10

Samer
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Re: Poetry :$

thanks guys smile

Gumby I do hope u post some of urs smile

@Leus "I've never really been able to appreciate poetry either, for some reason.  Just sounds too...  Forced/alluding."

mm yeah sometimes but I never write poetry intentionally ... I get emotional and just start writing on paper or typing and it comes out as poetry if that's what u want to call it  ... as i said I don't follow any poetry rules or whatever and I don't try to rhyme on purpose big_smile and I don't liek reading other people's poems except if I can relate emotionally to it.

@mukade " It would take patience to combine that and the length of it"
hehe I chose the smallest one I had :$ tongue


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#7 10/23/09 16:10

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Samoko wrote:

... and I always rhyme for some reason ... ppl tell me that is a weakness but it just comes out that way ...

No way it's a weakness! Everyone can write poetry without metre and rhyme. Much of what passes for poetry today is just texts with line breaks in the wrong places. But putting it into a certain form, being able to observe certain formal rules and still getting your point across without making it sound "forced", that's what makes it art! Aleister Crowley once compared modern poetry to sitting down on the keys of a piano and claiming that you skillfully overcame the formal constraints that bogged down Beethoven (not a literal quote).

I like your poem. I sometimes write poems too but most are in German.


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#8 10/23/09 18:10

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adorage wrote:

Aleister Crowley once compared modern poetry to sitting down on the keys of a piano and claiming that you skillfully overcame the formal constraints that bogged down Beethoven (not a literal quote).

hehe that made me laugh tongue

How's the Arabic learning going btw smile have u come across any poetry in Arabic ?

and thank you smile


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#9 10/23/09 18:10

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I like the positive aspect of your poem.

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#10 10/23/09 19:10

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Samoko wrote:

How's the Arabic learning going btw smile have u come across any poetry in Arabic ?

Not yet. I'd love to read some though, I learned a lot of English too by translating song lyrics.

Didn't get into any Arabic class this semester but I'm trying on my own. I've been wondering about one thing though: how are you supposed to pronounce the word "sadiqka" (as in "your friend"). You'd have to pronounce the ك right after the ق and I can't imagine how that would be possible.

(I'm not going to start spamming the thread, just have this one question.)


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#11 10/23/09 22:10

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Re: Poetry :$

great poem

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#12 10/24/09 07:10

Samer
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adorage wrote:

how are you supposed to pronounce the word "sadiqka" (as in "your friend"). You'd have to pronounce the ك right after the ق and I can't imagine how that would be possible.

mmm u have to pronounce them tongue there is no other way ... sadiqoka aw sadiqaka aw sadiqeka big_smile  depends on its grammar but there is no other way ك right after the ق

rehearse it u'll get used to it .. u'll come across a lot of those in Arabic smile

the important thing is that u can differentiate between how the sounds should be "emitted" for example the difference between   س  & ص
ت & ط
ق & ك
ث & ذ

if u don't however don't be frustrated a lot of Arabic native speakers still confuse them in dictation tongue


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#13 10/24/09 08:10

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Sorry dont want to waste forum space. But dont you think this place is getting abit deserted? Its like lesser people talk nowadays O_O. Izzit bcuz of the BGI thingy?

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#14 10/24/09 09:10

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Samoko wrote:
adorage wrote:

how are you supposed to pronounce the word "sadiqka" (as in "your friend"). You'd have to pronounce the ك right after the ق and I can't imagine how that would be possible.

mmm u have to pronounce them tongue there is no other way ... sadiqoka aw sadiqaka aw sadiqeka big_smile  depends on its grammar but there is no other way ك right after the ق

So you insert a short vowel between the quf and the kaf? That would be easier of course.

Yeah I know the difference between the "bright" and the "dark" consonants - or at least I try to memorise it. One of my current favourites is صحيح - a saad and then two times ح right next to each other. Priceless tongue

So do you know any good poets who write in Arabic? I only know Mahmoud Darwish ^^
Though I doubt I would understand much at this point...


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#15 10/24/09 14:10

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Stevinlewis wrote:

Sorry dont want to waste forum space. But dont you think this place is getting abit deserted? Its like lesser people talk nowadays O_O. Izzit bcuz of the BGI thingy?

It takes almost the same amount of space to make a new topic as it does to make a new post. It is also less confusing if you do so. We also have plenty of space. tongue

Anyways, the forumgoers come and go. Nothing new.


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#16 10/24/09 22:10

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Oh I see. Okay sorry back to topic smile. Btw I tot u guys are americans? How come you guys can speak arabic O_O?

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#17 10/25/09 07:10

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Re: Poetry :$

I'm Lebanese hmm not American .. it's a small country near the Mediterranean Sea (Middle East) google Lebanon if u want ... Arabic is the offical language but french - english even spanish and italian are spoken there too.
All schools teach either Arabic and English or Arabic and French ...  or the three
I'm Arabic - English educated ... for example History Geography and of course arabic (language and grammar) are taught in Arabic ... Scientific subjects and English language are taught in english.

So arabic is my first language english is my second smile & I know very little french.


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#18 10/25/09 11:10

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Re: Poetry :$

i know english and french and thats all, but lots of french smile


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#19 10/25/09 11:10

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Re: Poetry :$

The Oni community has always had (in my opinion) an unusually high ratio of non-native English speakers to native English speakers.  Just look at EdT's forum map.  Perhaps something about Oni makes it more popular in other countries than this one... *shrug*


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#20 10/25/09 12:10

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that's a really positive thing everyone around the world can relate to it and find it enjoyable ^_^


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#21 10/25/09 12:10

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Makes for a more interesting community too.


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#22 10/25/09 12:10

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us canadians are rare on oni eh?


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#23 10/25/09 12:10

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Yep, but fortunately for you, user #1 on this forum is Canadian, so he's got your back ^_^


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#24 10/25/09 13:10

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yeye big_smile

Oh I see. Okay sorry back to topic . Btw I tot u guys are americans? How come you guys can speak arabic O_O?

wow steven, you managed to go back on topic then right back off topic in the same post hmm

anyways, yeah, this post should really go back on target tongue


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#25 10/25/09 13:10

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mukade ur post isn't relevant either tongue hehe

anyway I'm gonna post another one I have no idea why but why not I doubt anyone will read  the whole thing cz it is BIG .. but maybe someone gets bored and finds this interesting tongue  . only few of my friends read it but I think it's one of my best :$ hopefully


Elements Of Nature

sorrow & pain washed away by the rain
a tear, a drop make a river that doesn't stop
transparent & pure, how much more do I have to endure
like water I flow where will I end ... I don't know
in oceans of emotions I start to drown,
then try to float & transcend this world
up & down on these daily waves I try to make it out of this maze
want a fresh start but weighed down by the past
I’m waiting for the splash ...

coal then ash ... in the dark a lit spark
I carry a torch which my skin it'll scorch
anger & rage ...like flames that blaze
determined & strong, but I’ve been waiting so long
my hopes are smothered by the smoke
and every way out gets cloaked
can't stand the heat, can hardly speak
once was enough for me to learn ...
play with fire & u will burn

making my way through the mud, the tears, sweat, & blood
like a rock I try to be tough, instead i sink into the slough
boulders & stones can crush my bones
but if I just hide, I'll be petrified ...
I have to cut the weeds & slash the thorns
to make it to a greener lawn ...
the greatest tree from a little seed came,
makes me wonder if I can do the same
like it emerged from under the soil , so proud
hope I'd rise to stand out from the crowd

building a shield to keep my love sealed
a fort to support, what is left of my heart
once warm & nice, now cold as ice
numb and lost in this painful frost
but why I froze ... that, I can't expose
being buried alive under the snow
flowers of liveliness cease to grow
in this blizzard, I'm left alone to shiver
a road to salvation, I'm praying u'd deliver

out of my life, u vanished into thin air
no longer seen but I still sense u there
like the mighty wind & a gentle breeze
so rough sometimes, but without u I can't breathe
so tender & light but if I dare to fight
an angry storm in the horizon forms
can rip me apart or carry me to the clouds
caressing my face or blowing me away
I have to choose, surrender & fly or resist & die

some words can hurt more than swords
my armor of protection wasn't ready for ur deceiving affection
I should have recalled, "not all that shines is truly gold"
I gave u too much power and trust ...
that I failed to see ur metal was catching rust
heavy chains keep my body and soul bound
leaving marks in my flesh, injuries, so profound
can't move, can't stay, can't break free,
it's like the real me is locked underground,
and I’ve lost the key ...

my desires like castles of sand, for long they can't stand
and I’m left wondering, trying to understand
I finally had them in my hands
what went wrong? why couldn't they be strong
when the events unfold they fail to withhold
grain by grain, dream by dream they slip away
were they real or did I make them up, just to feel ?
was it all a figment of my imagination ?
an exaggeration ? or some twisted hallucination
did I create an illusion to escape my confusion ?
if not, then how could they so easily corrode and fade ?

I hide in the darkness I hide in the shade
my vision isn't clear and all that's left is fear
like my shadow always by my side the pain is inside
and in my soul blackness starts to reside
as my desires and morals collide ...
torn by my need and my pride

one day I hope the goodness shall glow
and a light will shine so beautiful, so divine
my angel, our paths shall intertwine
and I’ll finally be fine ....
everything will be clear and simple and sincere
and all the sadness will disappear
as the brightness bathes my face
all the hurt it will erase ...
my spirit will take flight
the light will cast away the night
and it's warmth will dry my tears

the water of purity will drown my fears
& extinguish the flames of rage
the fire of passion will melt this ice cold cage
and burn through my dark past
& the castles of my dreams will be built to last
the wind will lift me higher
and I’ll finally have all I deserve and desire ...


Water, Fire & Smoke , Earth , Ice , Wind, Metal , Sand & Illusion , Darkness, Light ...

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