It's time, guys. (BGI concepts discussion)

Samer · 10/21/09 14:10

I like mukade's version

but is it possible to make that into 3D ? and put it into the game ? I mean we are still struggling with mixing character parts ...

who is going to actually make it :s ?

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Iritscen · 10/21/09 14:10

I wouldn't worry about who will make it, modeling something like this is easy.

But Mukade, I couldn't really get a sense from your reply if you were going to change the design at all. I'm not really sure that a dropship would be designed to land on the point of its nose and its fins, for one thing You would be able to use landing gear if the bottom were mostly flat, but with large objects hanging down like the nose, the gears would have to be ridiculously huge to reach the ground.

Also, the dropship definitely needs to have wings or rotors like a conventional modern-day VTOL, unless you can explain scientifically how the current model stays aloft when flying.

Stevinlewis · 10/22/09 08:10

Dropships could also be like helicopters. The Pelican is something like a helicopter. thrusters at the side. Small little wings( Which arent really wings i think) with 6 by 2 seats. Aint that it? O_O . Gimme a few more days. Ive scratched all my prev designs cuz it dosent fit into the oni world. Its harder then I thought

Iritscen · 10/22/09 08:10

Stevinlewis wrote:

Dropships could also be like helicopters. The Pelican is something like a helicopter. thrusters at the side. Small little wings( Which arent really wings i think) with 6 by 2 seats.

Yes, helicopters are VTOL as well. But I figured, since we already saw the Syndicate using helicopters, it might be cooler to give BGI something more high-tech (and it is the future, after all), which would mean using a thrust method more like the Harrier (the jet I posted a picture of before), where there's thrusters pointing down. In fact, I think the Harrier is redirecting the thrust from the rear-facing nozzles through downward vents; there isn't an additional engine for landing/taking off, it just directs the thrust from the engine vertically to lift off, then horizontally to fly.

Mukade · 10/22/09 16:10

it isnt airborne as such, like i said, its using repulsor technology (i dont want to got too far with that so its very basic and can't go very high) Although i have the distinct feeling that you'll disapprove of advanced sci-fi type technology like that :-/
maybe ill get around to modifying the drawing but really, as long as you have basic desgin all you would have to do when making a 3D model is make the small changes youself. Also, i considered this, the wings could in fact slide backwards and up (in a curve not an angle )
for an entrence, which solves a couple problems.

I suppose this would be a good chance as any to start getting introduced to XSI?
I have it and ive looked around and i'dsay i know about 0.01% of how it works...
it looks WAAAY to complex but ill see what i can do, (my AC3D trial expired )

hey i thought XSI was free it says my trial expired

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Iritscen · 10/22/09 16:10

it isnt airborne as such, like i said, its using repulsor technology (i dont want to got too far with that so its very basic and can't go very high)

Okay, maybe I should have been clearer on this -- the dropship is used in our story to fly long distances, even up to the Mountain Compound. It definitely needs to be able to fly horizontally like a plane at high altitude, as well as ascend and descend vertically.

Mukade · 10/22/09 17:10

that's what ive been saying, i said i would make a dropship, but sorta changed my mind
don't judge this by dropship criteria

i thought XSI was free, but my trial expried

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Iritscen · 10/22/09 17:10

Oh, okay. Well, I don't know that it will get used in the BGI story if it's not a dropship It might still be useful as a set piece in the BGI building's hangar, though, so if you want to continue the work for your own edification, go right ahead, but I'm not making any promises that we will know where it can fit into the story.

Mukade · 10/22/09 17:10

oh i know, but it would still be a cool thing to put in like you say, as a prop, but like i also said, itm ya not be a dropship but it's a troop carrier, so it could still drive up next to her, drop off it's payload and drive off

Leus · 10/22/09 17:10

Oh, the move I was talking about where the character sticks out their fists and spins that I thought was striker slam was actually an elite move, I realized.

......I'm late on this subject.

Mukade · 10/22/09 17:10

so anyone know where i can get the free xSI?

Leus · 10/22/09 17:10

Torrent it yo. Or find a crack. There's all kinds of illegal opportunities on the magnificent thing called internet.

Mukade · 10/22/09 17:10

better edit that post fast Leus... before a mod busts you

Gumby · 10/22/09 17:10

Mukade wrote:

better edit that post fast Leus... before a mod busts you

Too late. I let Iritscen borrow my banhammer though.

Iritscen · 10/22/09 17:10

Uh, did you try actually Googling it? http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc … eID=123112 . What's the deal with you guys? It's free, just click on Download Now.

Mukade · 10/22/09 17:10

i dunno, maybe i got a full version or sumthin...

Leus shoulda learned by now...

Gumby · 10/22/09 17:10

For that matter, you aren't supposed to suggest cracking\torrenting\illegalling downloading anything here. Though suggesting you do it to a free software product is...I can't even put it into words. Normally you would get a short ban of some sort (probably) for just suggesting it, but since it was a free software...I'm just going to let it slide. Don't do it again, you should know better.

Iritscen · 10/22/09 17:10

I can put it into words... "thumbs down"

Leus · 10/22/09 18:10

Oh, I thought that was just about Oni.

Alright. Well... Glad it worked out that way, then. I dunno anything about XSI, I just know what the internet can do. I'm too scared to do most of that stuff myself, but most people don't seem to be.

Anyway, sorry.

Edit: I guess I forgot that people could possibly be sensitive about that kind of stuff. Everyone I've ever met is all about illegal internet junk; it just seems so normal.

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Mukade · 10/22/09 18:10

yeah... and im sure ppl on here do it all the time, but it IS illegal and this is a public forum, so downlod all ya want, just don't talk about it on this forum...

anyways, i checked the link you gave me and im downloading, but im pretty sure this is where i gt it lasttime and it's just a trial (i may be wrong so im doin it again)

Gumby · 10/22/09 18:10

Leus wrote:

Oh, I thought that was just about Oni.
Alright. Well... Glad it worked out that way, then. I dunno anything about XSI, I just know what the internet can do. I'm too scared to do most of that stuff myself, but most people don't seem to be.
Anyway, sorry.
Edit: I guess I forgot that people could possibly be sensitive about that kind of stuff. Everyone I've ever met is all about illegal internet junk; it just seems so normal.

Normal or not, it is illegal. I'm not going to get into a discussion about the ethics of it at the moment, but there is a chance that if you post illegal content on the forums, the forums will be held responsible. Plus, if some game company employee comes on the forums (it has happened before...) we want to look like a shining example of gamers who help pay their salary and make them want to help us. Other than that, illegal is bad. Don't do it. </ramble>

Mukade · 10/22/09 18:10

Okay anyways, it works, i must've gotten sumthun very similar to it
it IS softimage, but i guess a different thing although it looks the same (i think i got the trial instead of the demo )

Edit: Yeah i got Softimage 7.5 but what you guys had was Softimage mod tool 7.5

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Samer · 10/22/09 18:10

mmm I don't if we can still talk about characters or not,since it is more about the dropship thing maybe we should split the topic ?... but @ Leus it's not striker slam we call it the windmill ^_^ elites and Barabus have it ... it will look good on the Hammer character, I'm thinking of giving him mutant muro's walk and some of his moves ... and a lot of heavy slow moves ... and giving him the unstoppable tag .. But I'm still not sure about the looks ... I was thinking elite mix tanker but then thought the chief body looks very robotic and may suit him better after some re-texturing ... sounds good ?

and don't ban Leus D: !!! we all do mistakes

Mukade · 10/22/09 18:10

no no, this is BGI topic anything BGI related goes here, no worries

for the invisble characters... i suggest a modified phase cloak texture, although im not sure how to do that, my guess would be changing the TXMP into a XML and changing settings from there cause all the actual tecture file is is a white square, if yo figure out (or if i do) how it works someone can change the actual graphics (make it a bit less monotonous) something smoother

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Gumby · 10/22/09 19:10

If you do that, all phase cloaked characters would be invisible. It is a white square because it is mostly transparent.

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