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#1 29/1/12 12:09

Lukas Kreator
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Oni won't start after Install

Some months ago, I started having problems with Oni not starting after doing a Install with AE.
No errors, no messages. It just won't start, no matter how many times I click on it's icon.
No proccess on task manager, either.

So, I just figured out something very important that may help fixing this error.
In GameDataFolder, most LevelX_Final.raw and LevelX_Final.dat are missing.
Right now, I can only see 3, 4 and 12.
After putting some old dats and raws from a backup I made, I found out it works again, but with no new mods.

So, can someone, from this information, think on a way to fix this?


Thanks.

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#2 29/1/12 13:43

Samer
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

I had this problem before on my old computer sometimes the levelx_dat and raw are not written especially when u have many mods installed this is due to memory issues I believe. once I updated my RAM I never faced that again. so what I used to do is once it creates all of them correctly with all the mods I need installed, I make a backup of them and use the backup to replace the files it doesn't create later.
how much time does it take for the AE installer to install btw ? if it takes more than 2-3 minutes or if it takes very little time ( few seconds) it's most probably a memory issue.

Last edited by Samer (29/1/12 13:45)


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#3 29/1/12 14:13

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Yes, how many mods do you have checked to install?


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#4 29/1/12 14:21

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Install again, upload your Install.log.


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#5 29/1/12 15:41

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

I have a lot of mods. Takes about 10-50 seconds depending on how many mods I install or uninstall at a time. I have 2 Gb RAM.

Install.log (long directory tree was changed to C: to make reading easier)

Mod Installation started 2012-Jan-29 15:03:57
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\11000BetterWeaps\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\12000NewWeapons\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\12100LukasKreatorWeaponSet1\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22000NewCharacters\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22010BGIagents\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22020Jubei_Akane\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22500DaodanMukade\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23600Kojiro\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23800James_JamieHasegawa\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\24230MetalNinja\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\26000KonokoHD\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\31000GlassBreakingMoves\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\32000DangerousGlass\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\33000ImprovedWeather\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\34000Blood\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\45000NinjaShadowDash\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\52000AndrashiTRAM\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\53000KnockdownRevamp\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\90000LukasWeapons\oni\level0_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level1_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level2_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level3_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level3_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level3_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level3_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level4_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level4_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level4_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level4_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level6_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level8_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level9_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level10_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level11_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level12_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\77777OniZenGarden\oni\level12_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level12_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level12_Final.raw

Installation ended 2012-Jan-29 15:04:07
The process took 00:00:10

Last edited by Lukas Kreator (29/1/12 15:42)

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#6 29/1/12 15:51

Iritscen
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Lukas Kreator wrote:

I have a lot of mods.

That is not a very precise answer.


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#7 29/1/12 15:59

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

What operating system are you running?


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#8 29/1/12 16:28

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Can you check your VanillaDats folder and see if there is anything inside?


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#9 29/1/12 17:05

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Of course, the real answer to this problem is "Don't install ludicrous amounts of mods".  We provided checkboxes for a reason (as opposed to just installing everything that's in packages/).


byproducts are fine, but where's the beef?

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#10 29/1/12 17:08

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

1-) Sorry, last time I tried, roughly 20 to install, total: 45.
2-) Microsoft Windows 7 x86. Played Oni before, AE had no noticeable problems.
3-) Empty folders, except for level0_Final, which contains more or less 10 files, all ONWC .onis.
4-) I don't install all I have.

Do you think I should maybe try a fully clean install?

Thanks everyone for the help, btw.

Last edited by Lukas Kreator (29/1/12 17:13)

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#11 29/1/12 17:20

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Right-click on the icon of the installer and click "Run as Administrator". Try installing like that.
If that doesn't work, fully reinstall the game.


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#12 29/1/12 17:30

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

I already tried running as administrator, same results.
After the install, some raw files are missing and running as admin was never needed anyway.
I'll try a reinstall when I regain access to this computer, as I must go now.
You guys may want to leave instructions here and I'll try them later and report the results.

Sorry for this 'setback', but I'll soon have access to it again.

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#13 29/1/12 18:32

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Iritscen: the limit to the number of mods you can install is pretty much bounded by the number of characters you can fit the arguments for Onisplit. Depending on how I coded it (I forget) it is either 32767 or 8192. 8092 / 42 = 192. Even if all mods were installed, his paths aren't 192 characters long, he isn't in danger of hitting that limit. Everything else is done with C++ STL lists, or C# Lists\Dictionaries, which don't have any easily reachable limit. I'm not quite sure how he managed to delete his VanillaDats. Any theory I can think up of at the moment doesn't sound right. What this looks like is a failed Globalization, but how it happened on an existing install is beyond me.

Lukas: Go into advanced options and select ReGlobalize. If that doesn't work, upload Globalize.log.


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#14 29/1/12 21:35

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

I know that the Installer shouldn't have any real limits, but I seem to recall that paradox reported an upper limit to how many .oni files it could handle before malfunctioning.  Haven't gotten to test for this yet, though.


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#15 30/1/12 5:36

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

If there is a limit to .oni files, it's in Onisplit and needs to be reported to Neo.


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#16 30/1/12 8:32

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Well, that could be.  I'll try to make the time to do some testing.


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#17 4/2/12 16:17

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Reglobalizing takes a lot of time but fails, handled exception, "access denied" on "level3_Final\SNDDmick_hrt_dth3.aif.oni".

Globalize.log:

Globalization started 2012-Feb-04 19:09:44
Removing old GameDataFolder...
Creating needed directories...
Exporting and moving...

level0_Final
	Exporting level0_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level1_Final
	Exporting level1_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level2_Final
	Exporting level2_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level3_Final
	Exporting level3_Final.dat


Globalization ended 2012-Feb-04 19:14:39
The process took 00:04:55

I guess level3_Final.dat might be corrupted?

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#18 5/2/12 14:46

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Hmm, could your AV be interfering?


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#19 5/2/12 15:32

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

EDIT: Nevermind... Reglobalization and installation seemed to work as expected, but Oni still won't run.
All .raw files are there this time (except for the ones that aren't supposed to be there, like level 5).
Startup stops on "loading level 0...", installation takes 30 secs but reports no errors in the install.txt file.
Globalize.txt seems normal, except that it ends on "Moving level0_Characters", after doing some reimports.

Last edited by Lukas Kreator (5/2/12 15:39)

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#20 5/2/12 16:28

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

Upload both Globalize and Install. Sounds like it still didn't work properly. We'll see.


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#21 5/2/12 16:32

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

GLOBALIZE

Globalization started 2012-Feb-05 18:16:53
Removing old GameDataFolder...
Creating needed directories...
Exporting and moving...

level0_Final
	Exporting level0_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level1_Final
	Exporting level1_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level2_Final
	Exporting level2_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level3_Final
	Exporting level3_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level4_Final
	Exporting level4_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level6_Final
	Exporting level6_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level8_Final
	Exporting level8_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level9_Final
	Exporting level9_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level10_Final
	Exporting level10_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level11_Final
	Exporting level11_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level12_Final
	Exporting level12_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level13_Final
	Exporting level13_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level14_Final
	Exporting level14_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level18_Final
	Exporting level18_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
level19_Final
	Exporting level19_Final.dat
	Cleaning up TXMPs...
Reimporting levels
	Reimporting level0_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level0_Final VanillaDats/level0_Final/level0_Final/level0_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level1_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level1_Final VanillaDats/level1_Final/level1_Final/level1_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level2_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level2_Final VanillaDats/level2_Final/level2_Final/level2_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level3_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level3_Final VanillaDats/level3_Final/level3_Final/level3_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level4_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level4_Final VanillaDats/level4_Final/level4_Final/level4_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level6_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level6_Final VanillaDats/level6_Final/level6_Final/level6_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level8_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level8_Final VanillaDats/level8_Final/level8_Final/level8_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level9_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level9_Final VanillaDats/level9_Final/level9_Final/level9_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level10_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level10_Final VanillaDats/level10_Final/level10_Final/level10_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level11_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level11_Final VanillaDats/level11_Final/level11_Final/level11_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level12_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level12_Final VanillaDats/level12_Final/level12_Final/level12_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level13_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level13_Final VanillaDats/level13_Final/level13_Final/level13_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level14_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level14_Final VanillaDats/level14_Final/level14_Final/level14_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level18_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level18_Final VanillaDats/level18_Final/level18_Final/level18_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level19_Final.oni
Onisplit.exe -import:nosep ../GameDataFolder/level19_Final VanillaDats/level19_Final/level19_Final/level19_Final.oni >> Globalize.log
	Reimporting level0_Particles.oni
	Reimporting level0_Textures.oni
	Reimporting level0_Sounds.oni
	Reimporting level0_TRAC.oni
	Reimporting level0_TRAM.oni

Moving level0_Characters


Globalization ended 2012-Feb-05 18:25:20
The process took 00:08:27

INSTALL

Mod Installation started 2012-Feb-05 18:28:43
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\11000BetterWeaps\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\12000NewWeapons\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\12100LukasKreatorWeaponSet1\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22000NewCharacters\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22010BGIagents\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22020Jubei_Akane\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\22500DaodanMukade\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23100ShinatamaBot\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23500Casey\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23600Kojiro2.0\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23610Hayate\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23630MutantJester\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23800James_JamieHasegawa\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\23900CharacterAdditives\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\24000SeveredTextures\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\24230MetalNinja\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\26000KonokoHD\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\29000CharacterRetexture\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\31000GlassBreakingMoves\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\32000DangerousGlass\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\33000ImprovedWeather\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\34000Blood\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\45000NinjaShadowDash\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\52000AndrashiTRAM\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\53000KnockdownRevamp\oni\level0_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\90000LukasWeapons\oni\level0_Final
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level1_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level1_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level1_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level2_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level2_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level2_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level3_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level3_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level3_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level3_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level4_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level4_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level4_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level4_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level6_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level6_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level6_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level8_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level8_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level8_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level9_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level9_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level9_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level10_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level10_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level10_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level11_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level11_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level11_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level12_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level12_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level12_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level13_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level13_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level13_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level13_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level14_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level14_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level14_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level18_Final;C:\Oni\Edition\install\packages\Globalize\oni\level18_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level18_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level18_Final.raw
Reading files from C:\Oni\Edition\install\VanillaDats\level19_Final
Removing duplicates
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level19_Final.dat
Writing C:\Oni\Edition\GameDataFolder\level19_Final.raw

Installation ended 2012-Feb-05 18:29:09
The process took 00:00:26

Last edited by Lukas Kreator (5/2/12 16:33)

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#22 5/2/12 18:28

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

That looks about right. Could you run the install again without any custom packages checked?


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#23 5/2/12 20:36

Lukas Kreator
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Re: Oni won't start after Install

As I was partly expecting, from past experience, it works unless I select the Jubei&Akane package.
I'm not saying there is a problem with Samer's package, just that it won't work for me, for some reason.
Other than that, it works as expected.

Thanks a lot to everyone for the help.

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#24 5/2/12 21:10

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Re: Oni won't start after Install

There might be conflicting files in that package and another.


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