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#51 24/9/12 13:39

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Polygon count will limit what i can add .. Even for hayate whose chest is simplistic polygon wise adding a katana made it cause buffer overflow sometimes.
Textures i can work with ... I'll try to google some samurai armor and see what i can come up with.


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#52 24/9/12 15:11

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

To stop the buffer overflow, make a simple version for the lower LOD 0 and 1.  You really only need 2 LOD versions.

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#53 24/9/12 15:19

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Edt i tried having several lods for konoko hd and it didn't work, the files are still posted there with 5 daes for the 5 lods ..


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#54 24/9/12 15:37

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

I think what EdT try to telling you is to create two separate models(one for lod 1,2 or 3 and the other for the rest 4,5).
Question.. where is the limit telling the engine when to change the lod..is this is connected to camera distance , or how many polygons you have on the screen?
And if we are still in the subject.. Can peoples responsible for improving oni engine. can increase how many characters could be added to One save point?The 32 limit character..is really annoying. I understand that Oni engine can't handle many additional polygons, but adding more chars- low poly, furnitures, cars, tanks..etc.. will surly not be a problem. Thous memory limits are for old 32 MB ram cards and PS2 limits.. not for modern computers witch have 2+ GB ram..I can understand graphics limitations, but this can be changed , without creating huge impact on game fluidness i think.

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#55 24/9/12 16:11

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

i understood what Edt meant and that's what i did before ... i made 5 daes for the 5 lods .. for hd konoko and the buffer overflow issue remained .. discussed it here : http://oni.bungie.org/community/forum/v … d=2409&p=2 post 35 (entire thread is about it) .. Iritscen was supposed to take a look at them and see what might be wrong .. I also asked to increase limit but others didn't agree read the thread i linked.
i think it's better to continue the lod discussion on the konoko hd problem discussion thread.


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#56 25/9/12 5:16

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

i think what is making the armor feel knighty and European is the pattern on it .. so i noticed that samurai armor have those lines pattern on the armor ..
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so i removed the European pattern and made those line patterns, and added some gold details to match hayate's
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i think she looks good now and matches hayate outfit and less knighty.

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#57 25/9/12 5:29

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Almost.
-remove tights armor
-make the skirt more like samurai(with armors palette like on the picture You posted))
-add katanas to her pelvis on both sides.
and then everything will be ok.

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#58 25/9/12 5:38

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

- i'll see how it will look like without thighs armor
- i experimented with skirts using different asian patterns and such but decided i like this most
- 2 katana's is a bit much esp on the pelvis cz they'll intersect thighs a lot and basically i can't fit more uv maps there, i'll either add one on her back or 2 small ones on the thighs.


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#59 25/9/12 22:45

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

ok final version of the outfit .. added katana, made thighs skin instead of armor to give her a lighter look.
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Was thinking to add one more outfit resembling this one :
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it's modern and still true to her character .. i like the hoodie but i may not be able to pull it off cz if i merge it with the head when she truns her head it will look separated from the chest, and if i merge it to the chest when she crouches the hoodie may go through the head, will see, if it works i'll make a similar outfit for hayate with a hoodie ... and the mid section may look different.
that is if i'll have enough time to do this i'll start work in few days and will have much less time to mod, and i want to finish hayate update to start working on mega pack level.

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#60 26/9/12 16:59

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Edt may i use the forward punch animation u made for motoko for hanako and hayate update ?


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#61 26/9/12 17:48

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Looks good however I think the skirt doesn't fit with the rest of the armors.

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#62 26/9/12 17:59

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Samer: yes, you can use any of Motoko's animations.  I agree with script, skirt and armor doesn't fit.  Perhaps if you do as Itemplar stated and made an armored looking skirt.

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#63 26/9/12 19:24

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

actually i was inspired by xena warrior princess
old_xena.jpg and these images images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRurKCpEaHbrJKXIvzzHnQojBT0vLfHK0dsVfK_lKdvNoEhoOB8uCGsXrYOimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcRssh87FvKcouVceXp55c-eFUmZY1sDd-4cojXfoEbR6pvRM7sfwkKb12pP9w
+ i feel an armored skirt is too heavy for her she's an agile character and with that much armor it becomes more suitable for a more brute character, i was actually thinking of adding more skin on the biceps and wrists ...
and this is the original model : skirt + armor
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+ it got some likes on the facebook group smile http://www.facebook.com/groups/18665679 … tif_t=like
but i will try a black skirt ... though i think that would make her too dark, and hayate's outfit has some white too

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#64 28/9/12 8:56

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

which one do u like more ? 1 or 2
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(please don't ask for other changes pick one of these)
I'll release first one that gets 5 likes ..
also posting it on the facebook group .. i'll tally total from both

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#65 28/9/12 9:14

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

1 - But it looks like the legs should be swapped between the two.  Dark with dark, light with light.  Just my opinion.

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#66 28/9/12 9:27

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

i need a white touch in either one that's why the white skirt comes with brown legs, black skirt with white one ..
ok with facebook tally the 1 is the winner
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#67 28/9/12 9:57

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

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on second thought i agree. Guess the white on the belt will have to be enough.

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#68 28/9/12 10:06

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Looks much better.

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#69 28/9/12 11:14

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Agree

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#70 28/9/12 19:56

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Hanako Version 1 released on 29/09/2012 . Download from first post.

In a future release I might add a 6th outfit, and modify the purple outfit. But for now this is it. Enjoy

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#71 28/9/12 20:03

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Sweet thanks! big_smile

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#72 28/9/12 20:05

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

hope you enjoy it Lithium.
maybe if you have some spare time you can make her a showcase video.


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#73 28/9/12 20:08

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Maybe when I get my internet fixed sad

I can barely even download these atm hmm

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#74 28/9/12 20:11

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

ouh that sucks :\ now you're experimenting what i feel tongue it took me an hour to upload the package :\


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#75 28/9/12 21:43

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Re: NEW CHARACTER : **Hanako** Version 1.3 updated on 28/06/13

Hanako looks awesome!!! I really like the armored version.  Apparently you were able to reduce the polygons on the models.

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