BGI Characters and Levels Discussion

ltemplar · 09/23/12 10:09

1)I'm matching center rotations.
2)All heads are in this one(you could simply remove mask or visors(polygons) from it)
3)No i can't do much in XSI .. because I still have to clean the mess..i have on my hard drive.
As i wrote above I had a huge crash on my computer, so this is as much I can do for now.
Sorry.

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Samer · 09/23/12 13:09

Is there any hope the animations can be salvaged later ? Or are they lost for good

if they still can be salvaged, i'll wait, if not i can try to make them using striker's heavy kick for rhino head charge and tankers crouch + fw kick for ground smash

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ltemplar · 09/23/12 13:09

The animations aren't lost...When I finish cleaning my hard drive..I will post them (for now....because of that crash I have them finish on :Rhino charge 65%, the earthquake 85%)- Thous will be XSI files not exported ones.

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Samer · 09/23/12 21:09

Hope it will get resolved soon and thanks for everything. I have 1 additional request, when u are able to work on xsi again, can u make 1 more animation for him ? The animation is he forcefully claps his hands together once or more than once ... While standing ., later particles can be added to make it like a soundwave is emitted from the clap that stuns enemies.

Samer · 09/24/12 01:09

some notes for later .. that might you help solve your export problem

1-before matching centers make sure the current scaling and rotation of the object centers are frozen, then match the center ''all transforms'' to the oni one.
2- when u match all transforms of centers sometimes translation is not matched only scaling and rotation, u need to manually correct the translation of the center to match that of oni .. i've noticed in the dae some centers have correct rotation but wrong translation . also wrong scaling cz u didn't freeze the scaling first
3- u tend to name the biceps wrists and the fists wrists ..

ltemplar · 09/24/12 03:09

It's dae file produced by my 3d program not XSI.
I have XSI file where all thous things you mentioned are corrected(2h work).
Centers are wrong, because even if i create proper centers , parenting , etc in 3d program, it will produce additional nodes(helpers) for the centers, kill the parenting, and unfreeze scaling...so this is waste of time..
What I posted is DAE from that program..only prepared to work in XSI nothing more.
But i will take what you wrote into consideration, especially "all transforms" thing.

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ltemplar · 09/24/12 06:09

Update.

Hammer Animations version 1.0(based on Barabbas model)

Include XSI format animations:

-Thunderclap attack- generate shock wave
-Rhino charge-At the beginning prt. charge(similar to Barabbas). then fast "fly"(god prt. needed here)
-Earthquake_attack - As previous prt. charge then he hit with his two fists a ground, discharging the accumulated energy
and then creating shock wave (after that freeze in 20 sek.- available for attack).

Thous two attack at the beginning are similar for purpose(you can't be sure with attack he will preform, till it's to late)
Rhino charge can be only evade by jump of from the "fly" track.the Earthquake attack can be evaded only by moving out from the discharge range.

Agree?

link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?su6wt1i82xnd5aq

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uroboros · 09/24/12 07:09

If Hammer's abilities are going to be mainly earthquakes and shockwaves maybe he could have an attack like this?

A ring shaped shockwave with a big radius but it would move slowly so it can be easily avoided by jumping over it.

Samer · 09/24/12 09:09

Ltemplar, a scene file can't be opened unless i have all the related files in the same location as you .. I can't open this, xsi says : exp can't be opened .. So like i said please send me a dae.

ltemplar · 09/24/12 10:09

Dae format files as requested

Link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?8111eiry1tr51br

Hope this will not be messed up.

EdT · 09/24/12 12:09

Samer: Did you move the scene files into your scene folder and open it from there?

I put Itemplar's xsi files into my scene folder and was able to open them in xsi with no problem

Samer · 09/24/12 13:09

No i didn't, i'll try that as soon as possible, however i've always had trouble even saving scene files i get failed to save before system failure either when i save it or when i try to re-open it, when u save the scene does it have to be in a specific folder as well ?

EdT · 09/24/12 13:09

I save the scene file in the default scene folder.

BTW. Thank you for your assistance, I replied by email

ltemplar · 09/24/12 13:09

I put another files for animations in DAE format 4 posts above.
Any comment will be appreciated.

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Samer · 09/24/12 13:09

Ltemplar i saw the links, just don't have electricity to see them yet, it'll take few hrs to be back, sorry. I managed to successfully export the model btw today so that's good, just had to modify neck, head juncture a bit, other than that it looked great in game

ltemplar · 09/24/12 13:09

Ok.
But don't forgot to post a screen shot.

Samer · 09/24/12 16:09

I tried to open scenes .. put them in the default folder .. got this :

same if i save a scene i made to the default folder .. can't open it later. it's a problem on my end obviously since Edt can open them but i have no idea how to solve it or what causes it (i've installed and reinstalled xsi several times since then) .. even on my old computer i was never able to save and open scenes successfully. Edt .. do u update ur xsi when it says updates are available ?

for dae files i get this mess for all of them :
there's no parenting what so ever between the parts btw .. ltemplar do u use crosswalk export dae ?

Edt maybe u can export as dae and send it to me since u can open the scene files and ltemplar can't export the dae correctly.

screenshots in game btw

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EdT · 09/24/12 17:09

Here are the animations: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1869/Hammer_Animations.zip

Samer: Have you looked at the permissions on the default scenes folder?

Itemplar: Why don't you use Crosswalk in XSI to export as dae? That is what I always use with no issues.

Samer · 09/24/12 18:09

ok i tested the animations .. they're good some feedback though

they are a bit too slow i think, the pause at the beginning in particular is too long, i can cut some frames from it though or remove it all together cz without a proper particle that makes him look he's charging energy it won't look so good. and with that much pause she'll have time to run to another room or hit him a lot before he does the attack

the rhino charge, wish he bent his head\chest a bit more to actually hit with the head horn (like striker's heavy kick) .. as is now he'll hit with the torso due to his size.

the thunder clap, can he extend his arms fully ? since u mentioned marvel ultimate alliance before.. take a look at the thing's thunder clap or the hulk's .. they extend their arms fully. he opens his arms extending them fully bringing them to the back a bit then claps them together in the front .. this doesn't look as forceful.

if possible to make these modifications i'll appreciate it.

Edt thanks for ur help .. but i don't think i understood what u meant by permissions (?)

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EdT · 09/24/12 18:09

Read/write permissions on the scenes folder. I don't know why else you can't save and open your scenes.

ltemplar · 09/25/12 03:09

I'm using Crosswalk for exporting DAE format...This time I used selection only. Selected all parts and then export.Maybe i haven't checked and make active some of the options there? Next time i will remove cameras helpers etc..and then see if this is exported correctly....

What is regarding animations:

1)That long pause is for purpose. He will create deadly particles like Barabbas then he will preform the move.But if you think it's to much then short this time (simply in dopesheet select all frames in that charge , and then move to desire frame(cut by 10 or more- but if you do this then also modify the other move))
2)Look how the horn is located. It's not straight up direction. But if you want you can fund out thous two frames(for begin and the end of "fly") , and change only head or torso rotations for thous (this is 5 min work) to get desire result.
3)Yes i know thats why proper prt. are needed. I can't create this move exactly looking like hulk's thunder clap. The limitations are oni bones, and the fact that he is wearing a heavy augmented armor.

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Samer · 09/25/12 13:09

ltemplar are u still going to texture the robot and improve the typhoon and make the trooper ?

ltemplar · 09/25/12 13:09

Yes i will..I even started...but want to finish the Konoko scout armor, and BGI trooper first.
If you afraid that I jump to framework thing then don't worry it is rather long term project. like Apartment level.

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Samer · 09/25/12 13:09

yeah u got me looking forward to them .. i'll finish the other stuff with the hammer as soon as i finish hanako.

ltemplar · 09/25/12 13:09

No problem..

Especially I'm looking forward to see the animations in the game.

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