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#1 18/2/10 11:58

TomeOne
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Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

I made the change because it allows people to have a more balanced rating (you see pluses and minuses, not just one or the other).

It also allows you to specify why exactly you rated the person up or down.


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#2 18/2/10 12:24

demos_kratos
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

A wipe, huh? Well, a good idea.
At least now we can know "who the heck did just minused me?"

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#3 18/2/10 12:28

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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Sweet.


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#4 18/2/10 12:32

TomeOne
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

demos_kratos wrote:

A wipe, huh? Well, a good idea.
At least now we can know "who the heck did just minused me?"

Exactly. No more hiding behind anonymous down-rating.


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#5 18/2/10 12:38

3llense'g
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Harry wrote:
demos_kratos wrote:

A wipe, huh? Well, a good idea.
At least now we can know "who the heck did just minused me?"

Exactly. No more hiding behind anonymous down-rating.

Yes, but won't it give room to pm-spam-b*tching?


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#6 18/2/10 12:42

TomeOne
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

3llense'g wrote:
Harry wrote:
demos_kratos wrote:

A wipe, huh? Well, a good idea.
At least now we can know "who the heck did just minused me?"

Exactly. No more hiding behind anonymous down-rating.

Yes, but won't it give room to pm-spam-b*tching?

I don't care what happens in PMs - frankly, I prefer it's taken to PMs or whatever other avenue. As long as people don't fill up threads with their off-topic BS, I'm happy.


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#7 18/2/10 13:15

Samer
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

So all the good points we rightfully gained were for nothing because u decided to change the system ? u should have at least carried the points we had ... I personally won't use this reputation system much cz it's meaningless, takes more time every time u rate; jumping to a new box\page, and isn't post related giving + or - will be for the user instead for bad post or a good post, and who knows when will u decide that it is a bad decision too and wipe it out all again same way u did with karma or tags.

and correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this system allow administrators and moderators to remove any good reputation when they please ?

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#8 18/2/10 14:37

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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

No offence, but I would like to see a "thanks" system, instead of this.
It makes everything more simpler. Instead of just saying thanks, you're actually "giving" the person a thank.


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#9 18/2/10 16:00

3llense'g
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Samer wrote:

So all the good points we rightfully gained were for nothing because u decided to change the system ? u should have at least carried the points we had ... I personally won't use this reputation system much cz it's meaningless, takes more time every time u rate; jumping to a new box\page, and isn't post related giving + or - will be for the user instead for bad post or a good post, and who knows when will u decide that it is a bad decision too and wipe it out all again same way u did with karma or tags.

and correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this system allow administrators and moderators to remove any good reputation when they please ?

You made me like this system. Thanks.


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#10 18/2/10 16:58

Samer
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

and u made me hate it even more .. as someone like u who have been here for years and have done nothing, have the ability to "judge" me .. u minused me lol !!

how ridiculous 3llense'g


and u send me WTF abt the rightfully gained part ??

yes i did rightfully gain each point of the 90 I have .. it's nice for u cz u had - karma ... i wonder why ? maybe cz u have done nothing all the time u were here ? while i in months have made over 10 mods with highest downloads ? fixed the ONCV issue ? wrote tutorials ? contributed to the joint story ? updated textures ?

or is it jealousy ?

AND U DARE say WTF ?? WTF to u just without the : the , what, to,  parts


and u know what smile since they are unappreciated anyway .. I'm going to quit smile so THANK YOU for that 3llense !!!

Oh I'm sorry I didn't kiss ass and say it's a great idea ! Sorry for having an opinion ! I must have missed the part in the rules where it said it's a dictatorship.

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#11 18/2/10 17:15

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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Who cares? They are just little points. Please refrain from flaming\trolling anymore, or I will be forced to take action. smile

Also, please do not use the rep system to carry out little conversations\arguments.

Edit: And yes, this system does give us the power to remove good\bad reputation whenever we please. Do you have an issue with that?

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#12 18/2/10 17:17

3llense'g
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Ok...

1: All forums are dictatorships.
2: I haven't been on the site for years.
3: I thought you made the mods to help the community, not for F-ing points.
4: You just said you had 90 karma, how are your works upappreciated?
5: Who do you think you are?
6: Whining isn't an oppinion. Whining about my oppinion isn't an oppinion either.


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#13 18/2/10 17:20

Gumby
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

3ellense, you too. Discussion over for both of you. Continued posting like this is going to be viewed as flamebaiting and dealt with. If you really insist on continuing this, take it to PMs. But I really recommend dropping the matter entirely.


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#14 18/2/10 17:22

3llense'g
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Gumby wrote:

Who cares? They are just little points. Please refrain from flaming\trolling anymore, or I will be forced to take action. smile

Also, please do not use the rep system to carry out little conversations\arguments.

Edit: And yes, this system does give us the power to remove good\bad reputation whenever we please. Do you have an issue with that?

Amen to that!


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#15 18/2/10 17:25

s10k
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Perhaps you are taking this points too seriously. I mean, don't begin a war because just that. Come on guys.  neutral

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#16 18/2/10 17:28

Samer
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

ass kissing at it's best smile

& no Kyle I don't have a problem with u having the ability to remove the evaluation of anyone just bec u may like them or not.

and seriously don't worry u won't be hearing from me again smile


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#17 18/2/10 17:29

Gumby
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Also, let me remind everyone that some of the people who have contributed the most to Oni modding, (ssg, Neo, geyser, Alloc) doing things such as writing tools and updating data on Oni's binary files, have no points, and in some cases don't even use these forums.


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#18 18/2/10 17:31

Gumby
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Samer wrote:

ass kissing at it's best smile

& no Kyle I don't have a problem with u having the ability to remove the evaluation of anyone just bec u may like them or not.

and seriously don't worry u won't be hearing from me again smile

I'm going to take that as "Yes, Gumby, I want to get banned". Obviously the fact that we have the power to do so means nothing in comparison to the power to take Reputation points away. When I tell you to stop flaming, I mean it. See you in a week, if you choose to come back.

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#19 18/2/10 17:36

3llense'g
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Gumby wrote:
Samer wrote:

ass kissing at it's best smile

& no Kyle I don't have a problem with u having the ability to remove the evaluation of anyone just bec u may like them or not.

and seriously don't worry u won't be hearing from me again smile

I'm going to take that as "Yes, Gumby, I want to get banned". Obviously the fact that we have the power to do so means nothing in comparison to the power to take Reputation points away. When I tell you to stop flaming, I mean it. See you in a week, if you choose to come back.

Naw, don't ban 'im! He's pissed off enough as it is!


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#20 18/2/10 17:38

Gumby
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

All the more reason to give him a week to cool down. Actions have consequences. If he's going to act like that, he doesn't need to hang around here.


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#21 18/2/10 17:48

dream996
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

guys jusz take it easy !its jusz point but sam has done nothing wrong either! he is just saying his opinion !but he is actually right , the system is making everything seem to be unfair !he has been spending his OWN spare time to push the game forward in a short amount of time .and he wasnt the one who started it first anyway ,


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#22 18/2/10 17:53

Gumby
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

Dream, having 90 karma points didn't give him the right to flame.


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#23 18/2/10 17:58

dream996
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

but dont you agree with anything that he said ?at least he isnt randomly just acting like that ! he got a point ,he put loads of effort in to all his mod to get those karma !! (if u are 'samer' ,im quite sure you're going to say something about it sad  )

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#24 18/2/10 18:28

Iritscen
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

I think the old karma system was flawed, so I don't mind seeing points wiped.  There were a few karma scores that didn't seem to add up, so perhaps having a record attached to points will keep things on the up-and-up in the future.

Also, anyone who's here for the long-term shouldn't care about a point-wipe, as well as anyone who's *planning* to be here for the long-term.  We had no points system at all in the first, what, eleven years of this forum?  So any points gained in the last few months are nothing to get so attached to.  Samer began gaining points rapidly soon after he joined (and they were earned, I'll give him that), so perhaps he doesn't have the perspective that longer-term members have on the situation.  Hopefully he'll cool down over the next week and come back.


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#25 18/2/10 19:42

Lithium
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Re: Removed the Karma system, replaced it with Reputation

well i wish i just had a screenshot of my -19, it was my favorite number
Hmm now i can see why i got a negative for comments posted months ago
Also i like the idea of knowing how good and bad they are, and i dont see why ur angry at removing all your karma, i mean if it was me id prolly just post an opinion like, well it sucks that we didn't get our points carried on, i'm known to spam, but never get outbursts
Yea when i first showed up there were no points, also if you want your karma so bad, put it in ur damn signature

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